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Shardy
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Flying in Malaysia Reply with quote

After the saga of having to get my English driving license translated into English for the JPJ, I was quite amused to discover that if I want to take up flying in Malaysia I have to take an English test to make sure I can speak English.

It's a bit of an involved process - I need immigration to clear me to fly here first. Then I need a medical done by an aviation doctor. If I get those I can apply for my SPL (student pilots license) - that doesn't exist in the UK - you basically fly on the instructors license until you pass and gain your own PPL.

And I can join the flying club and start doing all the exams, flying lessons and the practical radio exam. Then I need my English proficiency test! And finally I can do the practical test and hopefully gain the full PPL!
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Flying in Malaysia Reply with quote

Shardy wrote:
After the saga of having to get my English driving license translated into English for the JPJ, I was quite amused to discover that if I want to take up flying in Malaysia I have to take an English test to make sure I can speak English.

It's a bit of an involved process - I need immigration to clear me to fly here first. Then I need a medical done by an aviation doctor. If I get those I can apply for my SPL (student pilots license) - that doesn't exist in the UK - you basically fly on the instructors license until you pass and gain your own PPL.

And I can join the flying club and start doing all the exams, flying lessons and the practical radio exam. Then I need my English proficiency test! And finally I can do the practical test and hopefully gain the full PPL!


Sounds like they make it harder to get in MY! Shocked

What happens if you spot errors in their English test's questions? Would you get extra mark for that? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jan, 2010 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I am afraid you might fail it Shardy. It is probably in Manglish... You better work your proficiency in that language Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's hope not - I can imagine some nasty consequences...
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PostPosted: Wed 20 Jan, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to flying in MY John.... and we all have to do that English test, as it is an ICAO requirement, not just DCA Malaysia. Btw I only got level 5 meaning I have to sit it again in 5 years time; and to add insult to injury, some locals got level 6 meaning life validity, and they speak/understand/write English less than u or I lol, yep corruption sh**t as usual

As for the flight licensing requirement, well that's the way it is if u wish to fly here with a DCA license; PPL is ok for any1 to apply, study and obtain but forget about doing ur CPL as a foreigner. They are only a handful of foreigners with DCA licenses (me being 1) and the exams are damn harder than anywhere I have been regardless of how much prior flight experience/qualifications u have held previously...

On the positive side, flying in MY is great, weather is warm most of the time, blue skies and uncongested airspaces, BUT beware of "Malayenglish" used in RT communications, non standard practices and unreliable ATC instructions like landing downwind with 20Kts up ur rear end....

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan, 2010 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Skyking2"]Welcome to flying in MY John.... and we all have to do that English test, as it is an ICAO requirement, not just DCA Malaysia. Btw I only got level 5 meaning I have to sit it again in 5 years time; and to add insult to injury, some locals got level 6 meaning life validity, and they speak/understand/write English less than u or I lol, yep corruption sh**t as usual

As for the flight licensing requirement, well that's the way it is if u wish to fly here with a DCA license; PPL is ok for any1 to apply, study and obtain but forget about doing ur CPL as a foreigner. They are only a handful of foreigners with DCA licenses (me being 1) and the exams are damn harder than anywhere I have been regardless of how much prior flight experience/qualifications u have held previously...

On the positive side, flying in MY is great, weather is warm most of the time, blue skies and uncongested airspaces, BUT beware of "Malayenglish" used in RT communications, non standard practices and unreliable ATC instructions like landing downwind with 20Kts up ur rear end....

Cheers
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Jan, 2010 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Shardy"]Let's hope not - I can imagine some nasty consequences...[/quote]

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jan, 2010 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skyking2 wrote:
Welcome to flying in MY John.... and we all have to do that English test, as it is an ICAO requirement, not just DCA Malaysia. Btw I only got level 5 meaning I have to sit it again in 5 years time; and to add insult to injury, some locals got level 6 meaning life validity, and they speak/understand/write English less than u or I lol, yep corruption sh**t as usual

As for the flight licensing requirement, well that's the way it is if u wish to fly here with a DCA license; PPL is ok for any1 to apply, study and obtain but forget about doing ur CPL as a foreigner. They are only a handful of foreigners with DCA licenses (me being 1) and the exams are damn harder than anywhere I have been regardless of how much prior flight experience/qualifications u have held previously...

On the positive side, flying in MY is great, weather is warm most of the time, blue skies and uncongested airspaces, BUT beware of "Malayenglish" used in RT communications, non standard practices and unreliable ATC instructions like landing downwind with 20Kts up ur rear end....

Cheers
SK2


I hated landing with a tailwind in England but then I was landing on a pretty short runway anyway.

Looking forward to the English test though - I really hope I can get a 7! I mean if I can't get it then who can?

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jan, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep good luck matey lol; btw who is doing ur English test? ours was done by UPM at a cost of RM400 per person...
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PostPosted: Mon 25 Jan, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure yet - haven't really got that far - but the instructor I spoke to said he'd done his online and that he found it really hard!
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Mar, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boy, if I was doing the English test I would give you ten out of ten.

I thought you were a native English speaker. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu 11 Mar, 2010 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine wanna know if expat need work permit to buy car in Malaysia.


(Stupid clown admin wont alow me post a new post).
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Mar, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adrienne888 wrote:
I thought you were a native English speaker. Shocked

He is. Laughing As native as it gets.

btw Shardy, how was the test?
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PostPosted: Mon 15 Mar, 2010 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not got that far yet - Malaysian red tape is holding this one up as much as the driving license...

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Mar, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Shardy"]Not got that far yet - Malaysian red tape is holding this one up as much as the driving license...

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Would not want to fly in 1 of those 2 seater with you..you might be into nose diving into the ground..
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